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Gulf spill raises long-term beach safety questions

reuters.com -- It could be years before some Gulf of Mexico beaches recover fully from BP Plc's massive oil spill and are declared free of toxic pollutants, including heavy metals, that can make people sick, a leading environmental advocacy group said on Wednesday.

"This is an unprecedented tragedy and environmental disaster in the Gulf that is raising unprecedented questions about how to manage beaches and other parts of the environment," said David Beckman, Water Program director with the Washington-based Natural Resources Defense Council.

"We've never had to confront before the question of whether the toxicity in a wave wash is such that people should stay out of the water," Beckman told reporters on a conference call.

...group issued its 20th annual report on water quality at U.S. beaches.

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honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:15,252 Points:1,141,025 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 9:32:52 PM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse Martinman: while I don't always agree with you, I have to say, you hit the nail on the head. There's still oil in the sands of Valdez. After all these years, it's just a few inches below the surface. And considering all the dispersant, we have NO clue what that will do in the long run.
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:15,252 Points:1,141,025 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 9:31:31 PM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse 1006: yea, but you don't live close to the coast, don't have to deal with the volatile fumes which burn your eyes and choke your throat.
UseLessGasFolks Champion Author Iowa Posts:3,093 Points:835,930 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 1:50:00 PM Ignore UseLessGasFolks Report Abuse So to try to make themselves look good they made a bad situation worse.
ashishpa All-Star Author St. Louis Posts:951 Points:217,540 Joined:Feb 2010	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 11:55:37 AM Ignore ashishpa Report Abuse not a surprise...
Martinman Champion Author Mississippi Posts:11,747 Points:1,658,215 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 9:24:31 AM Ignore Martinman Report Abuse Oh BS! The reality is that there will never be a full recovery in our lifetime - the problems will just get buried under progressive layers of beach sand. And each landfalling hurricane will provide periodic reminders that it's nothing more than temporarily buried out of harms way - correction, out of OUR way.
1006 All-Star Author Birmingham Posts:929 Points:1,027,495 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 7:03:00 AM Ignore 1006 Report Abuse right, but let's put some positive thought into this. Quit harping on the negative & let;s deal with it & move on. the press can be areal downer.
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:15,252 Points:1,141,025 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 6:09:39 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse as for water quality, much of that comes from the use of dispersant, known to be a toxic substance but BP used it anyways - against government rules. Now the people living within 150 miles of the Gulf shores are the ones who will suffer long term effects. BP will long be history when these illnesses appear.
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:15,252 Points:1,141,025 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 6:07:27 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse NOTSOGRN - your post makes only partly sense. I can only think it's because you were tired at nearly 3 am?
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:15,252 Points:1,141,025 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 6:05:30 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse ecovore: you got that right.
EcoVore Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:3,533 Points:727,150 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 2:44:33 AM Ignore EcoVore Report Abuse Dino juice beaches a real turn off.
NOTSOGRN Champion Author Michigan Posts:1,280 Points:1,082,200 Joined:Dec 2007	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 2:43:37 AM Ignore NOTSOGRN Report Abuse When was this written? It's dated 07/28/10 It wasn't looking as good two weeks a go. A failed hurricane churned & broke up the oil now hard to find. The warmth + Bactria of the Gulf's waters is breaking the light crude down. Warm waters is what Alaska didn't have going for it. Are there tar balls oil on the shore is spotty at best as bad as it has been some of this may have been over played as fishing is be allowed again. It's looking better now as PB works to fully plug the well. Be careful BP.
genef01 Champion Author Nashville Posts:2,611 Points:834,680 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 2:23:04 AM Ignore genef01 Report Abuse Old news and more speculation.
Powerstroke73L Champion Author Sacramento Posts:2,785 Points:723,905 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 2:11:22 AM Ignore Powerstroke73L Report Abuse The gulf is dead, all sea life has been destroyed, the shore line is ruined and I've got ocean front property in Arizona... You know what? Information came out today that: As far as the total number of bird kills.... it has actually been less than 1% of those killed during the Exxon Valdez spill. As far as all the dead dolphins and whales.... a grand total of THREE mammal carcasses have been found. As far as the fish and shrimp populations being poisoned and decimated and the livelihoods of fishermen being destroyed.... so far all of them that have been tested have been totally clean and fishing and shrimping restrictions are being gradually lifted. As far as the destruction of the shoreline.... a grand total of 350 acres of Louisiana marshes have been found to be oil covered, which is nothing when compared to the 15,000 acres that are lost to the sea each year through erosion and man caused water diversions. No, the sky DIDN'T fall but we'll still keep getting faced with stories like this to keep the uninformed and illiterate in a panicked frenzy.....
Saturn93 Champion Author Salt Lake City Posts:6,566 Points:1,487,875 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 1:55:49 AM Ignore Saturn93 Report Abuse Another new article from Reuters - a national news service. More undereducated, over-paid, reporters filling a quota by writing stories to fulfill a political agenda. Just stick with the facts, all the facts, and carefully label any opinions as such.
Sody33 Champion Author Las Vegas Posts:15,482 Points:1,814,560 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 1:44:00 AM Ignore Sody33 Report Abuse Only with proper precautions put into place.
REKEY Champion Author South Carolina Posts:6,206 Points:1,233,480 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 1:41:58 AM Ignore REKEY Report Abuse I thought they wanted to "Drill, baby, drill!"
TIGERPAW46 Champion Author Florida Posts:5,149 Points:963,855 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 1:38:06 AM Ignore TIGERPAW46 Report Abuse Some beaches were hit worse than others with the surface tar balls. It's what you can't see that is a concern, like the chemical dispersant they used, which left the micronised oil & chemicals suspended in the Gulf water; and they can't skim it off the surface and separate it like the surface oil. It's suspended and below the surface and is still killing sea life. They don't expect the turtle hatchlings not transported to survive once they hatch.
danreino Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:6,270 Points:1,142,195 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 1:35:23 AM Ignore danreino Report Abuse Have another drink; dont cost ya nothing....
REVLAW Champion Author San Antonio Posts:8,022 Points:1,539,190 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 1:31:16 AM Ignore REVLAW Report Abuse Remember, "the sky is falling!"
ifallsguy Champion Author Minnesota Posts:4,420 Points:1,212,705 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 1:30:44 AM Ignore ifallsguy Report Abuse think of all those poor Hummer drivers who will have to pay more for their fuel.
250FORD Champion Author Minnesota Posts:8,265 Points:1,303,335 Joined:Feb 2007	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 1:25:26 AM Ignore 250FORD Report Abuse Z51Corvette Your dreaming, oil could and probebly will be coming on shore in a year. Alaska still is having oil issues and that happened how many years ago? The gulf spill is how much bigger? A year, yah right.
grouch311 Champion Author Illinois Posts:6,021 Points:1,153,490 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 1:24:43 AM Ignore grouch311 Report Abuse more reports
abfpat Champion Author Illinois Posts:25,863 Points:3,850,670 Joined:May 2001	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 1:21:55 AM Ignore abfpat Report Abuse thanks BP
Bhmf4 Champion Author Alabama Posts:1,319 Points:841,105 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 1:21:41 AM Ignore Bhmf4 Report Abuse The beaches are being cleaned now and will be safe very soon. People declaring disasters need the headlines to sell their crap. There are plenty of things wrong that they can write about, but one has to get their agenda out of the way first.
Rageagainsttm Champion Author Tampa Posts:6,004 Points:1,446,120 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 1:16:44 AM Ignore Rageagainsttm Report Abuse Thanks BP.
Bruno44 Champion Author Texas Posts:4,851 Points:1,323,975 Joined:Sep 2007	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 1:13:00 AM Ignore Bruno44 Report Abuse Excellent point Z51Corvette.
ewoodwardjohnso Champion Author Richmond Posts:2,941 Points:815,215 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 1:11:15 AM Ignore ewoodwardjohnso Report Abuse The word I heard was it sank to the bottom...along with dispersant. Gee, I wonder what that tastes like. No shrimp for me.... [Edited by: ewoodwardjohnso at 7/30/2010 1:11:47 AM EST]
Z51Corvette Champion Author Austin Posts:6,156 Points:1,224,540 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 1:01:32 AM Ignore Z51Corvette Report Abuse Yo handy man... the beaches are cleaner around the coast than you could imagine. The EPA folks are amazed... Reuters is full of Hooey on this... more BS propaganda. The advocacy groups are crying "the sky is falling" when it isn't even close! More "slanted baloney"!being over 50 I will see the beaches safe within a year or LESS!
YLHandyman Champion Author Orange County Posts:5,008 Points:930,140 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 12:56:48 AM Ignore YLHandyman Report Abuse Ask Alaska about clean shoreline.
TBONE3 Champion Author Pennsylvania Posts:6,383 Points:1,509,670 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 12:56:27 AM Ignore TBONE3 Report Abuse They are learning more and more every day. Some of their time frames have shortened so lets hope other problems will rectify themselves in a much shorter time frame. I think they project further out and should things happen faster, they look good. That is not all bad either.
djtdi Champion Author San Jose Posts:2,829 Points:523,805 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 12:55:26 AM Ignore djtdi Report Abuse I am afraid the beaches are not going to be free from oil toxic materials for years and years to come. It is a tragedy!
VTROCK Champion Author Detroit Posts:2,582 Points:644,455 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 12:52:45 AM Ignore VTROCK Report Abuse Beaches around Los Angeles have had tar balls and oil washing up on them for years because of natural seepage. I don't see people staying away from those beaches because of a health hazard.
NotmeuQc Champion Author Montreal Posts:3,301 Points:667,740 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 12:51:53 AM Ignore NotmeuQc Report Abuse At 62 years of age, I will never see the beaches of the Gulf safe to swim in.
Ltdc Champion Author Long Island Posts:4,903 Points:1,222,465 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 12:49:20 AM Ignore Ltdc Report Abuse Should be a boon for the pool industry.
DosEquis26 Champion Author Chicago Posts:3,758 Points:1,541,590 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 12:36:54 AM Ignore DosEquis26 Report Abuse I can't read the article because of the ads placed on top of it.
vulcan96 Champion Author Ohio Posts:21,163 Points:2,638,520 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 12:31:10 AM Ignore vulcan96 Report Abuse make that 10 billion now
gocatgo Champion Author South Carolina Posts:12,569 Points:2,062,355 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 12:28:23 AM Ignore gocatgo Report Abuse Thank goodness for the $20 Bil Obama slush fund to keep bp honest!
DJRIO Champion Author Miami Posts:5,474 Points:959,285 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 12:27:15 AM Ignore DJRIO Report Abuse time we tell . in what are the real damage is
LoneGuy Champion Author Lansing Posts:6,143 Points:1,855,705 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 12:26:27 AM Ignore LoneGuy Report Abuse Why is it always about BP? Our government led by Obama is responsible for protection of our coastlines. All he can do is send lawyers and epa folks to interfere.
Blue_Cruzer Champion Author Lexington Posts:5,147 Points:1,201,650 Joined:Mar 2007	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 12:20:11 AM Ignore Blue_Cruzer Report Abuse I hope BP lives up to there commitment about cleaning up the shoreline.
TheSicilian Champion Author Jacksonville Posts:3,021 Points:1,002,225 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 12:16:11 AM Ignore TheSicilian Report Abuse we have to be more careful and develop alternatives that are viable
WhiteTreeIndian Champion Author New Jersey Posts:3,378 Points:667,470 Joined:Dec 2009	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 12:16:07 AM Ignore WhiteTreeIndian Report Abuse Maybe they can test it with those clad in orange suits.
tedjm1 Champion Author New York Posts:3,535 Points:388,610 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 12:14:41 AM Ignore tedjm1 Report Abuse Year by year, the cleanliness of our countries beaches are going to pot. More needles, excrement and who knows what else. Has to stop.
Bonito Champion Author Dayton Posts:13,044 Points:2,545,410 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 12:14:19 AM Ignore Bonito Report Abuse GET OFF OIL! NOW!
CobraLeader Champion Author New Jersey Posts:267,902 Points:1,200,750 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 12:13:11 AM Ignore CobraLeader Report Abuse ... Hey Dummies: If you don't know the answer, don't ask the question! ...
joel27nc Champion Author Raleigh Posts:8,152 Points:1,391,370 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 12:12:03 AM Ignore joel27nc Report Abuse I've never visited a Gulf beach - have you?
jay4 Champion Author Colorado Springs Posts:5,792 Points:1,326,080 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 12:10:44 AM Ignore jay4 Report Abuse The difference between this spill and those at Galveston, Santa Barbara, Valdez, etc. is the sheer volume.
Gary65 Champion Author Toronto Posts:1,501 Points:511,655 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 12:07:33 AM Ignore Gary65 Report Abuse Only time will tell if there right.
JettaKnight Champion Author Toronto Posts:1,355 Points:1,711,560 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 12:02:16 AM Ignore JettaKnight Report Abuse abcdMA Worcester "other reports tate that this is clearing up faster than anyone expected (Time Magazine--not a conservative magazine)" They must be slipping. Truly reputable media doesn't merely look at the surface but looks deeper into issues. It applies to oil spills as well, perhaps more so. History has proven that what people THOUGHT was a completely recovered oil spill site, was in fact STILL extremely contaminated after 40+ years. People seem to continually need to be reminded that appearances are deceiving.
catspaw Champion Author Toronto Posts:25,914 Points:2,818,190 Joined:Apr 2004	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 12:01:01 AM Ignore catspaw Report Abuse "Stupid Greenie Weenies...Give it up! People are swimming and fishing on those beaches right now. What a bunch of idiot propaganda." - RENEGADEGAS Just because there are people stupid enough to do stupid things doesn't mean it's safe. Don't tell me you've never seen or heard of anybody doing things too so dangerous you thought they were crazy.